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Some afternoon a few months back, while I was
no doubt lying on my couch and humming “Heaven Knows I’m Miserable Now,” I
received a text from my friend Jeffrey saying that I needed to hear a new
deathrock/punk band called Pawns. A quick Google search returned two
self-released seven-inch records, each three songs long. The band had recently finished
a United States tour, including the stop in Chicago where Jeff saw them: the
unfortunate reality of living dangerously close to mile marker zero is that
Miami residents often lose out on touring acts, so I frequently have to rely on
friends from more tour-friendly cities.
That said, I’m in a bit of a privileged
position as I have the luxury of often traveling for both work and play, which
was the case in October when I got to bum around New York for a few days: my
label had a day-long CMJ showcase at Palisades, all the reason I needed to jet
on over. The same night as our showcase, Destruction Unit played at Alphaville
with Snakehole and Horoscope. Much to my delight, Pawns were also on the bill.
Pawns are a fucking joy to watch. Gage Allison
writhes and wraiths, incanting darkness while bassist Jenna Rose leers into the
audience and Noel Mateus snakes sinister guitar lines through Matt Sullivan’s
plodding rhythms. Tight but explosive, Pawns draw their power from theatricality
as well as auditory prowess, rather than forsaking one for the other. Totally great band - highly recommended!
Jordan Reyes: I love New York - I've never
lived there, though I had a short tenure living on an air mattress in the
studio at Heaven Street Records, but I enjoy visiting quite a bit. There's so
much going on at all times. Is it ever frustrating or difficult to differentiate
yourself there? Does that matter to you?
Gage Allison: I wouldn’t consider it frustrating or difficult. That
being said, I don’t think any of us go out of the way to really differentiate
ourselves. There is a lot going on but one of the redeemable things about all
the oversaturation you’re subjected to is that there is a niche for everything.
Noel Mateus: If you have a good scene or friends
supporting you, then that's what sets you apart from most of the people playing
music in this city, and that can go a long way in making it less frustrating
and more enjoyable.
Jenna Rose: I have a very
different problem. I tend to be a loner so I don’t get out much, which makes it
difficult for me to affiliate with any particular scene. I have a practice
space and a little recording studio where I spend most of my time. I like to
hang out with my cat. When I do make it out I experience a lot of overlap and
camaraderie between the separate music communities, even though I don’t quite
fit the bill in any given scene.
JR: When I think of Pawns, I can't help but think
about the nascent L.A. Deathrock scene, coexisting with the punk scene - it
sort of mirrors your punk/hardcore background and overlap. There's a
co-mingling, which is somewhat inescapable, but did Pawns come from a desire to
break away from old habits, so to speak, or to move them forward?
GA: I’d have to say for me personally it’s about moving forward. I’ve
been playing in punk/hardcore bands since I was a little kid and never really
branched out from that until now. I definitely consider Pawns to be a punk
band, though we obviously take more influence from the darker side of the
genre, but there’s no doubt that a lot of the same bands that influenced me
then still do today.
JR: What relevance do you think
"punk" as an ethos has in the modern era? Are D.I.Y. ideals more
important now that the creative playing field is more flat, meaning more people
have access to making and distributing art?
GA: To answer that you kind of have to define punk as an ethos before
you can really touch on its relevance. These days everyone defines it
differently and I guess there isn’t really a right answer. For me, punk is a
culture that I have been ingrained in since I was very young and it will always
have relevance in my life whether I identify as such or not. In a lot of ways
it made me who I am today. That being said I couldn’t express more how
important DIY ethics are to the punk scene and if punk culture moves away from
that I think it would be safe to say that punk finally is dead (haha).
JR: I got to see you all play with Destruction Unit, Snakehole, and
Horoscope in October. It was a great show. I was sort of transfixed by the mask
you wore - the one with the three faces. It reminded me of Satan's appearance
at the bottom of hell in Dante's Inferno. Who made the mask? What's the
significance, if there is one to speak of, in wearing it?
GA: I made the mask a few
months ago out of papier-mâché and wire. There were a
few influences in coming up with the idea but I think it would be boring to
really touch on the significance of it. I’d rather have that be up to
interpretation.
JRose: I’m happy to hear
it be compared to Satan in Dante’s Inferno. He can’t see shit through
it. He thinks it’s funny to smash through me on stage while wearing it.
NM: I love it when he stumbles all over my pedals
while wearing it...
JR: Let's talk about performance as an imparting of self. I find myself
hearing two schools of thought: that performance is an act, a character or
story being told, and I've also heard that it's an exorcism, or expulsion of
truth. Is either of those applicable to Pawns?
GA: That’s funny that you mention this because Jenna and I discuss this
all the time. I really find myself unaware of my actions on stage. It’s hard to
tell if whoever I become when performing is a different person or merely an
honest exaggeration of self, but every now and then someone will mention
something I did while playing a show and I’ll be like “I did that?”
JRose: For me it is most certainly an
exorcism. I remember the first time I read Artaud’s Theatre of Cruelty and
how immediately my life changed. He had given me permission to express that
which I am unable to say, and furthermore, with purpose. (I’ve been told it is
inappropriate to assault others outside of a theatrical context).
JR: Is truth important in music, art, or performance? Can something be
genuine and also fiction?
GA: I don’t think there is such thing as “truth” so elaborating on its
importance in art is futile. Everything we believe, say, make or do is molded
by our surroundings and those surroundings were built on foundations of the
same scenario for generations all the way to the beginning of time. When it
comes down to it, being genuine in art and music is bullshit.
JRose: Gage has been reading too much Sartre.
JR: So far you all have released two 7"s - one from about a year
ago, if I'm not mistaken, and one from a few months ago, which you toured
recently. Do you think that the band has changed in the short but not
insignificant interim period?
GA: We have definitely grown a lot between our first self-titled 7”
and Eternal Return. I think we’re
getting more comfortable with the kind of music we are playing and have more of
a shared consensus on the direction we want to take the band.
JR: Do you guys have any desire to make or have you started
writing/working on a full-length record?
NM: That's the plan as of now. We're taking a break
from shows and trying to focus on writing new material that so far we're very
excited about. Some of it has been played live, but a lot is still in the
works. In a way the direction we're going in takes us back to our roots; to the
more punk/anarcho influences that got us playing this kind of music in the
first place.
GA: Yeah we’re planning on recording this Winter
and will ideally have our first full length out sometime next year (2016).
JR: I'm a fairly big horror junkie - I pretty much only watch horror,
sci-fi, and movies from Japan - do you guys have any favorite horror flicks?
GA: I’m a pretty big
zombie nerd myself. Dawn of the Dead
and Night of the Living Dead
are great. Can’t forget about the classics like The Shining and Rosemary’s Baby too. Have you seen
any good contemporary horror movies lately? They’re few and far between but I
couldn’t recommend House of the
Devil and It Follows
more.
NM: Hausu was cool.
JR: What about books? Read anything of note lately?
NM: Gabriela, Cravo e Canela by Jorge Amado. I grew up in
Brazil and went to school there up until 6th grade, so every once in a while I
like to brush up on my Portuguese and read some. Thanks mom for keeping me
cultured.
JRose: Camus is my all-time favorite writer.
Lately I’ve been reading some Baudelaire and Anthony Burgess’ M/F, if
you’re looking for something funny to read…
JR: What all is in the future for Pawns?
GA: Not exactly sure yet. Like we said, we plan on putting out a full
length next year that will pull us in a slightly different direction. Very
excited to see where that takes us.
NM: We self-released our first two 7"s and
that was cool and all, but we’re hoping to release our full length through a
label we like. We're all very happy with how we've done so far, thankful for
all the support from friends, and excited for what the future holds.
JR: Anything else you'd like to say?
GA: Black lives matter! Free Palestine! Etc